Legislature(1995 - 1996)

02/22/1996 01:40 PM Senate L&C

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 SL&C 2/22/96                                                                  
                                                                               
         SB 276 CALCULATION OF UNEMPLOYMT INS BENEFITS                        
                                                                              
 SENATOR KELLY announced  SB 276  to be up for consideration.                  
                                                                               
 Number 291                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. PERKINS explained that the Unemployment Insurance System has              
 enabled Alaskan workers, their families, and their communities to             
 weather periods of unemployment with their economic well-being and            
 dignity in tact.  Recent events in Sitka, Wrangell, and Pelican and           
 other areas affected by plant closures and lay-offs have                      
 demonstrated the importance of this safety net for our working men            
 and women, he said.  The schedule of benefits has not been adjusted           
 to increase the maximum weekly benefit amount since 1990.  Alaska             
 currently ranks 49th in the nation in unemployment insurance wage             
 replacement with the average weekly benefit amount only slightly              
 more than 27 percent of the average weekly wage for the State.  In            
 terms of the maximum weekly benefit amount, Alaska ranks 35th in              
 the nation, not withstanding the higher cost of living here.                  
                                                                               
 The current benefit schedule uses the workers yearly wage to                  
 determine the weekly benefit amount.  The minimum qualifying amount           
 is $1,000 which provides a weekly benefit amount of $44.  For each            
 $250 a worker earns over $1,000, two dollars is added to the                  
 benefit amount.  Weekly benefits are now capped at $212 per week              
 based on a maximum of $22,250.                                                
                                                                               
 This bill would keep the current benefit schedule in place, but               
 would replace the current fixed cap with a flexible cap.  The new             
 cap on wages would be 75 percent of the average annual Alaska wage,           
 exactly the same as the wage base on which employers and workers              
 are taxed to support the system.  Bringing the maximum qualifying             
 wages up to the wage base would raise the maximum benefit amount              
 from $212 today to $238 in 1997.  The average cost to employers in            
 the year 2000 will be approximately $1 per week per employee.                 
                                                                               
 Thirty five states use a flexible benefit standard driven by                  
 changes in the average weekly wage.  The advantage of such a system           
 is that it integrates the benefit standard into a self adjusting              
 unemployment trust fund formula which is directly tied to the                 
 State's economy.  As average wages rise, the standard for                     
 unemployment insurance benefits keeps pace in terms of income                 
 replacement.  If wages fall, as they did in the 1986-87 recession,            
 the maximum weekly benefit decreases and the employer tax burden              
 decreases.                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. PERKINS said this is a modest proposal; it would raise Alaska             
 wage replacement less than one percent to a little over 28 percent.           
 While it is not enough to change our wage replacement ranking                 
 amongst the states, the small change would provide a measure of               
 additional security to Alaska's average wage earners and help slow            
 the erosion of purchasing power during hard times.                            
 As we work to together to strengthen Alaska's economy to provide              
 quality jobs for Alaska's families and to move certain low-income             
 people from welfare to work, we must insure there is an adequate              
 safety net to allow unemployed workers sufficient finances to                 
 remain in their homes and communities and in Alaska until they are            
 reemployed.                                                                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR KELLY noted that the Governor's proposal asked the employer           
 to pick up the entire amount of the increase in insurance costs.              
 He had asked him for a model where the increased costs would be               
 split fairly between the employer and the employee.                           
                                                                               
 In statute the employer pays 82 percent of the insurance rate and             
 the employee pays 18 percent.  SENATOR KELLY said he asked for a              
 scenario of 80 percent for the employer and 20 percent for the                
 employee.                                                                     
                                                                               
 MR. TORGERSON said he had copies of the figures they put together             
 and passed them to the Committee members and answered their                   
 questions regarding its information.                                          
                                                                               
 One of the questions SENATOR KELLY asked was how much the employers           
 rate would go up under the 20/80 scenario.  MR. TORGERSON replied             
 irrespective of the other factors (how much is drawn against the              
 fund or other factors that come from having a self regulating                 
 financing system) and all things being equal, the total employer              
 tax would drop $2.5 million the first year.  It would rise $9                 
 million in 1999, but primarily because of other causes.                       
                                                                               
 The increased payout in benefits is a projected total of $7.5                 
 million; they are looking at additional employer/employee taxes of            
 $12 million.  Part of that is just the natural projected rise in              
 trust fund outlays for 1999 totally irrespective of the law change.           
 The trust income and outflow fluctuates from $6 million - $10                 
 million per year depending upon the economic cycle, MR. TORGERSON             
 explained.                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR KELLY asked for a long-range graph of how they project that           
 fluctuation.  MR. TORGERSON explained that the fluctuation goes up            
 and down.  For example, 1996 was the sixth year in a row when the             
 employer rate fell below the 85 - 94 average, about 2.7 percent.              
                                                                               
 SENATOR KELLY said that if that is based on a higher average                  
 salary, then people would be actually paying more dollars.                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR KELLY, referring to workers' compensation, asked if it had            
 dropped a bit this year.  MR. PERKINS said he wasn't sure there was           
 a direct correlation, but he thought some rates had gone down.                
                                                                               
 SENATOR KELLY noted that they were now looking at proposal changing           
 the 82/18 ration to 80/20.                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER noted that not all employer/employee contributions             
 are 82/18; it depends on what your rate is.  With this employment             
 structure, if you are a seasonal business, you get hit very hard.             
                                                                               
 Number 460                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR KELLY asked for an explanation of the rating system.  MR.             
 TORGERSON explained in the first process, they figure out the                 
 benefit cost rate or what is the average tax rate the fund has to             
 get back to stay solvent (2.17 last year).  That has nothing to do            
 with 82/18.  Of that tax rate (2.17), the employer pays 82 percent            
 and the employee pays 18 percent.  That never changes.  The reason            
 employers' rates change is that they aren't all assessed at 2.17.             
 To get an employer's rate, they take the benefit cost rate and                
 multiply that times .82 to get the employer share, and then                   
 multiply that by the employer's experience factor.  That will                 
 range, depending on a payroll, from .4 to 1.6.  SENATOR MILLER                
 noted that that is where seasonal employers are hit the hardest.              
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER said he thought Mr. Perkins' typed statement, the              
 last sentence of the second paragraph, was misleading.  It says if            
 wages fall as they did during the 1986-87 recession, the maximum              
 benefit would decline and the employer tax would decline.  That               
 wasn't the case, because the system we have is based on the amount            
 of money that's in there and there was a substantial draw on that             
 money and the employer tax rates went up.  Business were crying the           
 blues at that time because their rates went up dramatically.                  
                                                                               
 MR. TORGERSON agreed, but said in this proposal, it is tied to                
 wages, so if wages go up, the rate would go up and as wages go                
 down, rates go down.  He said he didn't mean to mislead them.                 
                                                                               
 SENATOR KELLY asked what was the philosophy behind the increase.              
 MR. TORGERSON replied that the top one third would see an increase            
 and the bottom one third would not see the increase.  The way the             
 system works now, the upper end sort of subsidizes the lower end.             
 It isn't meant to favor one class or another.                                 
                                                                               
 SENATOR KELLY said in his mind if one third of the folks  making              
 more than $22,000 per year go on unemployment, they come up against           
 a cap that is fixed in statute.  So while wages increase to pay for           
 it and the employer/employee percentage continues to go up every              
 year, the benefit amount is locked in by statute.  So the people              
 who are making the average weekly wage are paying a lot more                  
 percentage-wise than they ever get back.  He said he was really               
 concerned with the people who take advantage of the system who work           
 for just the summer and go to Hawaii in the winter and collect                
 unemployment.                                                                 
                                                                               
 TAPE 96-14, SIDE B                                                            
                                                                               
 MR. TORGERSON said people at the bottom of the scale are not going            
 to be affected by this change at all.  The people who will benefit            
 will be the average wage earners, the backbone of the State, who              
 are accustomed to and need to work as much as possible - people who           
 are supporting families.  He thought the work disincentive would be           
 minimal.                                                                      
                                                                               
 SENATOR KELLY asked what percentage of the average weekly wage is             
 the increased benefit.  MR. TORGERSON said it wouldn't even run a             
 percentage point. The benefit would be much lower than if they were           
 actually working.                                                             
                                                                               
 SENATOR TORGERSON asked if some companies were self insured.  MR.             
 TORGERSON answered that this program covers about 98 percent of all           
 employees, including municipal non-profits and governmental                   
 entities. They can choose whether to pay taxes or to simply                   
 reimburse the fund for benefits drawn by their employees.                     
 SENATOR KELLY asked what the other percentage did.  MR. TORGERSON             
 answered that he knew public officials, like the Senator, were in             
 that category.                                                                

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